You are just about the only British reliable source of information on Covid and other virus outbreaks now. Thank you so much.
This spring is the first time I’ve missed a booster. I’m not eligible. I used to be because mum was vulnerable. But she’s dropped her immune suppressant now so she can be vaccinated because of her age, but I can’t be vaccinated as her carer. We also have paid carers once a week to shower her. Half of them aren’t vaccinated or boosted!
As for waiting times, I have a terrible problem with the nerves in my feet. I can barely walk because of the pain. I had a full spine MRI scan in early January following a clinic assessment mid December. I was amazed by the speed. However, my appointment to see the consultant in his clinic has been postponed 3 times now and currently stands at 24th October! I currently feel like a waiting list trick. I’m no longer waiting to be seen. But I’m waiting for help still. It’s not acceptable.
Your continuance of bringing to us all well referenced & considered views on covid and other perilous invaders to our peace is a very wonderful & selfless duty! Thank you so much!
These efforts and those of other dedicated professionals are beacons to us who avoid the toxic ways of decadent media channels.
I'm going against the flow here on this thread, but I feel it needs saying.
re -' Please do get vaccinated if you are eligible!' There is sufficient evidence from what I consider a credible source to convince me that multiple shots result in negative immunity - Yes negative immunity ie you are better off not being multiple jabbed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ladcg0EdvBk.
Prof Robert Clancy, from the video, is an Australian immunologist - but equalling as important as his expertise is that he is independent of State financing - ie he is retired and can therefore stand up and be counted without risk to career etc. He saw the risks in this novel, untested vaxx from the start.
It is of note that the mRNA vaxx RSV research trial in kids has been 'paused' because its causing too many infections! RSV was never on my radar as a particular problem until someone saw the commercial opportunity to make a so-called vaccine and then it started to be pushed by the NHS et al.
Can I make three points
1. The basis premise is always DO NO HARM - all meds have downside, and Covid vaxx shots have some serious adverse side effects, that needs to be significantly outweighed by the benefits - clearly, from the above video multiple jabs don't satisfy this basic criteria.
2. Patients have a right to informed consent ie know the risks and harms to them. The vaccination invite that I got does not include that, being eligible is not informed consent
3. The Govt of necessity needs to ride two horses - the economy in the form of the bioscience industry and the health of the nation. The bioscience industry has lots of lobbyists - who is lobbying for the people against that strong lobby? I suggest the people have been sacrificed for the benefit of the economy - in UK we have a mRNA factory that can produce 250 million shots pa- that's a lot of shots to sell each and every year, and there is only one potential customer.
3. We all have an innate immune system that has been developed over millennium, and is truly remarkable, far more effective than any Johnny come lately vaxx offering the usual hyperbole to make the sale. From Prof Clancy above, vaccines for respiratory virus infections are notoriously difficult - this is why we don't have a common cold vaxx after many years of trying.
Can I ask why you are basing your opinion on a Youtube video? It's well know that many Youtube videos are just bollocks, and not a safe basis for decision making.
You can most certainly ask; and my answer is that my decision making is not based on the Youtube, which is merely the vehicle, but on the credibility of Prof Robert Clancy who is speaking in the video.
Prof Clancy has credibility, as you will see in his Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Clancy_(doctor). And, importantly Prof Clancy is financially independent and able to stand up and speak his mind based upon 50 years of practicing medicine and research .
It is a fact of life that if you publicly stand against the policy of your employer - be that Govt or private company- you will not reign very long; it happened to many, including academics, who publicly disagreed with their employer's during Covid. Not just in the UK but also US, Australia and Canada to my knowledge.
The concept of negative immunity according to Prof Clancy is Immunology 101, ie basic
level immunology. The question to ask I suggest is why UK researchers and immunologists are not undertaking this research? They appear to be stopping at 2 months after injection when they have an answer acceptable to their employer ie stop looking when you have the answer you want, it avoids embarrassment. But is hardly science.
Clancy is not dealing in pseudoscience his predictions have all come true - there is no better test.
Dr Jay Bhattacharya from Stanford and Dr Marty Makary from John Hopkins both stood against the mRNA gene therapy and felt the pain from the commercial establishment. One is now Director NIH in US and the other leading the FDA.
The credibility of Clancy, Bhattacharya and Makary alongside a few other senior academics who stood out against the novel gene therapy cannot be questioned, the quality of their expertise is formidable and their concerns have been shown to be relevant.
During the Covid era that was significant censorship, which has been admitted, of the press, academic journals, social media etc, if the censorship of views is needed; does the establishment have a weak case ?
The disappointing result is that generally academia, Public Health and others have let the public down, and been shown to do so.
You’ve made lots of statements without giving any evidence for them (e.g. that Clancy’s predictions have all come true). That’s a common feature of pseudoscience. In science, the norm is for people to back up contentious statements by giving the evidence for them.
If Clancy thinks he has done some scientific work of importance, he should try to get it published. If he hasn’t tried to publish anything, it strongly suggests he doesn’t have any confidence in what he has done, and we should ignore it.
The pseudoscience comes from the Govt and its supporters as can be seen from the Report below. 'Safe, Effective and Prevents Transmission' was not proven science then or now.
In January 2021 Pfizer submitted their Nonclinical Evaluation Report
Given that Govts were in lockstep it would have been with the UK soon after submission. It contains gaps in the investigation and quantifies the distribution of the product into major organs. We were told that like a conventional vaccine the product would remain in the deltoid muscle, as predicted it distributed.
Prof Clancy's interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYkN7Gdpl8w sets out his concerns and at about 33mins states that he approached his Professional Associations setting out his concerns and the 'red flags' together with the necessary actions, they declined to take action, suggesting that he approach the TGA - who hadn't taken action in the 2 years that they had sight of the report - I suggest political awareness rather than incompetence was the most probable reason..
The UK is a prosperous country where vaccine is available in very large numbers. In places like China and Russia there is no SARS coronavirus type 2 shot since 2022. Fortunately, there has been no increase in hospitalizations in China and Russia since the SARS coronavirus type 2 shots were stopped being administered in 2022 which is a good thing. Presumably, this is because of natural immunity in China and Russia considering there is no SARS coronavirus type 2 shot in these places to speak of.
The evolution from the original SARS coronavirus type 2 virus in 2019 to the latest LP.8.1.1 is akin to the evolution of the wild gray wolf (Canis lupus lupus) to the pug (Canis lupus familiaris). Severity has gone down to less than 10% over the course of 5 years, resulting in significantly fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
LP.8.1.1 has very weak lung infectivity compared to XEC. If LP.8.1.1 dominates this summer, we can expect hospitalization numbers to crash. Fingers crossed.
What I find really interesting is the hospitalization rate due to SARS coronavirus type 2 in Canada is only 0.6 per 100,000 people, far less compared to England and the US where it is 1.5 and 1.7 per 100,000 people, respectively.
I did my part for the vulnerable booster - a milestone being my 10th COVID vaccination. Didn't have any issues just explaining to the pharmacist I was on a biologic medicine. Felt rotten for a day afterwards but all good for the extra protection (Moderna).
Thank you so much. Disappointing that NHS is not necessarily showing the improvement everyone was hoping for. Hospitals are sending texts asking patients if they still need their appointments as they are struggling with numbers!
Thank you for your update, they are always appreciated.
I have heard of so many immunocompromised people being turned away from vaccination centres and told they are not eligible. I wonder if that's why the numbers are low. 🤷♀️
Thank you for this update Professor Pagel. As someone who is immunocompromised, I still follow the weekly data closely from Bob Hawkins. Whilst continued low Covid levels are good news, can you explain why levels have stayed consistently low for 5 months, despite the emergence of new variants? I would be very interested in a scientific explanation as to why new variants over recent months have not appeared to caused new waves of cases and hospitalisations. Many thanks.
In layman's terms, you can think of the evolution from the original SARS COV 2 virus in 2019 to LP.8.1.1 as akin to the evolution from the wild gray wolf to the pug. It's still the same species, but much less dangerous to humans after thousands of generations of domestication.
You are just about the only British reliable source of information on Covid and other virus outbreaks now. Thank you so much.
This spring is the first time I’ve missed a booster. I’m not eligible. I used to be because mum was vulnerable. But she’s dropped her immune suppressant now so she can be vaccinated because of her age, but I can’t be vaccinated as her carer. We also have paid carers once a week to shower her. Half of them aren’t vaccinated or boosted!
As for waiting times, I have a terrible problem with the nerves in my feet. I can barely walk because of the pain. I had a full spine MRI scan in early January following a clinic assessment mid December. I was amazed by the speed. However, my appointment to see the consultant in his clinic has been postponed 3 times now and currently stands at 24th October! I currently feel like a waiting list trick. I’m no longer waiting to be seen. But I’m waiting for help still. It’s not acceptable.
Hi Christina,
Your continuance of bringing to us all well referenced & considered views on covid and other perilous invaders to our peace is a very wonderful & selfless duty! Thank you so much!
These efforts and those of other dedicated professionals are beacons to us who avoid the toxic ways of decadent media channels.
Thanks!
A mild SARS coronavirus type 2 year is a bad year for doctors. Less patients. Less earnings. Less vaccine sales.
Oh dear! You poor uneducated delusional fool. Go away. Nobody cares about your opinion.
Thank you for this excellent update. I'm sorry you have to deal with such depressingly misinformed and unnecessarily antagonistic harassment.
I'm going against the flow here on this thread, but I feel it needs saying.
re -' Please do get vaccinated if you are eligible!' There is sufficient evidence from what I consider a credible source to convince me that multiple shots result in negative immunity - Yes negative immunity ie you are better off not being multiple jabbed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ladcg0EdvBk.
Prof Robert Clancy, from the video, is an Australian immunologist - but equalling as important as his expertise is that he is independent of State financing - ie he is retired and can therefore stand up and be counted without risk to career etc. He saw the risks in this novel, untested vaxx from the start.
It is of note that the mRNA vaxx RSV research trial in kids has been 'paused' because its causing too many infections! RSV was never on my radar as a particular problem until someone saw the commercial opportunity to make a so-called vaccine and then it started to be pushed by the NHS et al.
Can I make three points
1. The basis premise is always DO NO HARM - all meds have downside, and Covid vaxx shots have some serious adverse side effects, that needs to be significantly outweighed by the benefits - clearly, from the above video multiple jabs don't satisfy this basic criteria.
2. Patients have a right to informed consent ie know the risks and harms to them. The vaccination invite that I got does not include that, being eligible is not informed consent
3. The Govt of necessity needs to ride two horses - the economy in the form of the bioscience industry and the health of the nation. The bioscience industry has lots of lobbyists - who is lobbying for the people against that strong lobby? I suggest the people have been sacrificed for the benefit of the economy - in UK we have a mRNA factory that can produce 250 million shots pa- that's a lot of shots to sell each and every year, and there is only one potential customer.
3. We all have an innate immune system that has been developed over millennium, and is truly remarkable, far more effective than any Johnny come lately vaxx offering the usual hyperbole to make the sale. From Prof Clancy above, vaccines for respiratory virus infections are notoriously difficult - this is why we don't have a common cold vaxx after many years of trying.
Can I ask why you are basing your opinion on a Youtube video? It's well know that many Youtube videos are just bollocks, and not a safe basis for decision making.
You can most certainly ask; and my answer is that my decision making is not based on the Youtube, which is merely the vehicle, but on the credibility of Prof Robert Clancy who is speaking in the video.
Prof Clancy has credibility, as you will see in his Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Clancy_(doctor). And, importantly Prof Clancy is financially independent and able to stand up and speak his mind based upon 50 years of practicing medicine and research .
It is a fact of life that if you publicly stand against the policy of your employer - be that Govt or private company- you will not reign very long; it happened to many, including academics, who publicly disagreed with their employer's during Covid. Not just in the UK but also US, Australia and Canada to my knowledge.
The concept of negative immunity according to Prof Clancy is Immunology 101, ie basic
level immunology. The question to ask I suggest is why UK researchers and immunologists are not undertaking this research? They appear to be stopping at 2 months after injection when they have an answer acceptable to their employer ie stop looking when you have the answer you want, it avoids embarrassment. But is hardly science.
That all sounds like just pseudoscience.
Has Robert Clancy tried to get his work published in a peer-review journal so that it can be properly scrutinised?
Clancy is not dealing in pseudoscience his predictions have all come true - there is no better test.
Dr Jay Bhattacharya from Stanford and Dr Marty Makary from John Hopkins both stood against the mRNA gene therapy and felt the pain from the commercial establishment. One is now Director NIH in US and the other leading the FDA.
The credibility of Clancy, Bhattacharya and Makary alongside a few other senior academics who stood out against the novel gene therapy cannot be questioned, the quality of their expertise is formidable and their concerns have been shown to be relevant.
During the Covid era that was significant censorship, which has been admitted, of the press, academic journals, social media etc, if the censorship of views is needed; does the establishment have a weak case ?
The disappointing result is that generally academia, Public Health and others have let the public down, and been shown to do so.
That all sounds like just pseudoscience.
You’ve made lots of statements without giving any evidence for them (e.g. that Clancy’s predictions have all come true). That’s a common feature of pseudoscience. In science, the norm is for people to back up contentious statements by giving the evidence for them.
If Clancy thinks he has done some scientific work of importance, he should try to get it published. If he hasn’t tried to publish anything, it strongly suggests he doesn’t have any confidence in what he has done, and we should ignore it.
The pseudoscience comes from the Govt and its supporters as can be seen from the Report below. 'Safe, Effective and Prevents Transmission' was not proven science then or now.
In January 2021 Pfizer submitted their Nonclinical Evaluation Report
BNT162b2 [mRNA] COVID-19 vaccine (COMIRNATYTM) to the Australian TGA (the Regulator) https://www.tga.gov.au/sites/default/files/foi-2389-06.pdf
Given that Govts were in lockstep it would have been with the UK soon after submission. It contains gaps in the investigation and quantifies the distribution of the product into major organs. We were told that like a conventional vaccine the product would remain in the deltoid muscle, as predicted it distributed.
Senator's Rennick's interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8kaXrEQB5M&t=11s sets out the two FoI processes needed and his serious concerns.
Prof Clancy's interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYkN7Gdpl8w sets out his concerns and at about 33mins states that he approached his Professional Associations setting out his concerns and the 'red flags' together with the necessary actions, they declined to take action, suggesting that he approach the TGA - who hadn't taken action in the 2 years that they had sight of the report - I suggest political awareness rather than incompetence was the most probable reason..
Read the room. This is not a soapbox.
The UK is a prosperous country where vaccine is available in very large numbers. In places like China and Russia there is no SARS coronavirus type 2 shot since 2022. Fortunately, there has been no increase in hospitalizations in China and Russia since the SARS coronavirus type 2 shots were stopped being administered in 2022 which is a good thing. Presumably, this is because of natural immunity in China and Russia considering there is no SARS coronavirus type 2 shot in these places to speak of.
The evolution from the original SARS coronavirus type 2 virus in 2019 to the latest LP.8.1.1 is akin to the evolution of the wild gray wolf (Canis lupus lupus) to the pug (Canis lupus familiaris). Severity has gone down to less than 10% over the course of 5 years, resulting in significantly fewer hospitalizations and deaths.
LP.8.1.1 has very weak lung infectivity compared to XEC. If LP.8.1.1 dominates this summer, we can expect hospitalization numbers to crash. Fingers crossed.
Source:
https://x.com/LongDesertTrain/status/1894923517155504324
What I find really interesting is the hospitalization rate due to SARS coronavirus type 2 in Canada is only 0.6 per 100,000 people, far less compared to England and the US where it is 1.5 and 1.7 per 100,000 people, respectively.
Sources:
https://health-infobase.canada.ca/respiratory-virus-surveillance/covid-19.html
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#datatracker-home
I did my part for the vulnerable booster - a milestone being my 10th COVID vaccination. Didn't have any issues just explaining to the pharmacist I was on a biologic medicine. Felt rotten for a day afterwards but all good for the extra protection (Moderna).
I can only echo the others here in my appreciation of these updates. Thank you.
Thank you for the continued updates. Very helpful.
Thank you so much. Disappointing that NHS is not necessarily showing the improvement everyone was hoping for. Hospitals are sending texts asking patients if they still need their appointments as they are struggling with numbers!
Thank you for your update, they are always appreciated.
I have heard of so many immunocompromised people being turned away from vaccination centres and told they are not eligible. I wonder if that's why the numbers are low. 🤷♀️
Christina - your updates are my only reliable guides as to how the health of the country is moving. Very much appreciated. Keep it up!
Thank you for this update Professor Pagel. As someone who is immunocompromised, I still follow the weekly data closely from Bob Hawkins. Whilst continued low Covid levels are good news, can you explain why levels have stayed consistently low for 5 months, despite the emergence of new variants? I would be very interested in a scientific explanation as to why new variants over recent months have not appeared to caused new waves of cases and hospitalisations. Many thanks.
This might explain it: https://x.com/LongDesertTrain/status/1894923517155504324
I still need that explained in plain English for me as I'm not an epidemiologist
In layman's terms, you can think of the evolution from the original SARS COV 2 virus in 2019 to LP.8.1.1 as akin to the evolution from the wild gray wolf to the pug. It's still the same species, but much less dangerous to humans after thousands of generations of domestication.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU!
Many thanks for this update, Professor Pagel.